Monday, September 13, 2010

3rd Hour: "Scarlet Ibis"

  • While we read "The Scarlet Ibis," we'll practice good questioning techniques. As you have a question, please post it to this blog. When another finds the answer to the question or has a follow-up question, or an idea that relates to the question, he/she will post those thoughts.
  • Please use the handout from the webpage to guide your thinking.
  • Be respectful and specific on this blog--use predictions, background knowledge, and inferences to come to your conclusions.
  • Link your ideas back to the text.

175 comments:

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  2. Anyone want to look that up? Search on google.

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  3. Is a scarlet ibis a rare type of bird?

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  4. Ibis is a bird
    What does clove and phlox mean?

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  5. Yep. Good work.
    Can the ibis be anything else?

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  6. The Scarlet Ibis (Eudocimus ruber) is a species of ibis that inhabits tropical South America and also Trinidad and Tobago. It is the national bird of Trinidad and is featured on the Trinidad and Tobago coat of arms along with Tobago's national bird, the Rufous-vented Chachalaca.
    Adults are 56–61 cm long and weigh 650g. They are completely scarlet, except for black wing-tips. They nest in trees, laying two to four eggs. Their diet is fish, frogs, reptiles and crustaceans. A juvenile Scarlet Ibis is grey and white; as it grows the ingestion of red crabs in the tropical swamps gradually produces the characteristic scarlet plumage.
    The life span of Scarlet Ibis is approximately 15 years in the wild and 20 years in captivity.
    This species is very closely related to the American White Ibis and is sometimes considered conspecific with it.
    While the species may have occurred as a natural vagrant in southern Florida in the late 1800s, all recent reports of the species in North America have been of introduced or escaped birds. Eggs from Trinidad were placed in White Ibis nests in Hialeah Park in 1962, and the resulting population hybridised with the native ibis, producing "pink ibises" that are still occasionally seen.

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  7. wading birds of warm regions having long slender down-curved bills

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  8. to where is the Ibis native to? when does this take place?

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  9. Can a scarlet ibis be a different color than scarlet?

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  10. a clove is like a handfull or a part of a plant. ex a clove of garlic

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  11. What type of mood do the words "dead, bleeding, rotting, empty cradle" communicate?
    What do you predict will happen?

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  12. Look back at the background information; this story occurs in the South around 1918.

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  13. Great background, Earl. Make sure you cite your source.

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  14. Yes, Angie. A ibis can be white, too, I believe.

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  15. Ibis are a group of long-legged wading birds in the family Threskiornithidae. They all have long down curved bills, and usually feed as a group, probing mud for food items, usually crustaceans. Most species nest in trees, often with spoonbills or herons. The word ibis comes from Greek, originally borrowed from Ancient Egyptian hîb and also followed from the root hb.

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  16. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlet_Ibis

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  17. These words make kind of a scary mood for the story.

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  18. Does anyone know exactly whats wrong with Doodle?

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  19. I think we can make inferences, Devin, as we read further.
    Angie, good question about things being dead. Do you think that the death might relate to Doodle in any way?

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  20. What does it mean that he was born in a caul?

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  21. Was the tree realy bleeding. So does this mean someone got killed against the tree and the blood was on the tree from the person. Maybe the book is a mystery?

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  22. IT JUST THE SEASON IT IS THAT IS DIED not every thing

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  24. wait, where does all this take place? I can imagine it's in the south, but it doesn't say

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  25. Why did everybody except Aunt Nicey think Doodle was going to die?

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  26. What type of expectations do people have for Doodle?

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  27. Karl, I answered your question a little while ago, but you can also look at the background information on pp. 45.

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  28. no the tree just looks like it's bleeding when it is cut because of it's sap

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  29. an inference i have made, is that possibly doodle is a loved one, and he is not around anymore, possibly he has been attending boarding school?

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  30. Why do they keep the things Doodle no longer needs, such as his mahogany coffin and "gocart"?

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  31. Guys, you might want to go back to the background information on pp. 45 to help you with the bleeding tree, the time period, and see the definitions at the bottom of the page to answer some of your questions.

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  32. I think that people have small expectations for Doodle.

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  33. Not that much is expected of Doodle

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  34. I think that doodle is already dead

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  35. why does doodle keep getting sick?

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  36. Remember to read the foot notes they help explain words

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  37. I believe Doodle has a birth defect that he cannot overcome. Any ideas about what it might be?

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  38. What is "dog-tongue"? And why would someone pick it for a living?

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  39. Why did whoever this is want to kill Doodle?

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  40. i think that since where he was born was made of jesus's nightgown, that mabye doodle is a special person? possibly special powers?

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  41. I think doodle is the peoples beloved scarlet ibis

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  42. At the beginning, Doodle's brother wants to prevent him from suffering in life, so he thinks that killing him is the best option.

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  43. Doodle might have a rare disease.

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  44. Maybe he is a very very powerful kid

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  45. Why did they want to kill Doodle?

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  46. the author wanted to kill Doodle because he was ashamed of his brothers disability

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  47. Can Doodle not lay on his stomach?

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  48. he is named doodle because he walks backwards like a doodlebug.

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  49. because they thought that killing him was the best option for him instead of suffering.

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  50. Maybe Doodle was meant to do something big in his life, like something that would change the lives of others.

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  51. since doodle couldn't walk at age 5, why was his brother so embarrassed.

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  52. mabye they want to kill doodle because he might become a powerful king of narnia?

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  53. why does the aunt disagree with changing the name and why does she think that he is a saint

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  54. because she doesnt want to change who he is just because of what people judge of him.

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  55. why would he want to marry his dad

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  56. I think that Doodle might like end up dying and then like is soul or whatever like goes into the Scarlet ibis's body or something like that. or maybe he finds a scarlet ibis and it becomes his only friend.

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  57. The aunt thinks he is blessed by God because of the way he was born; therefore, she believes he will survive. He has a special purpose.

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  58. on page 47, near the bottom of the first column, it says he laid down on the rubber grass. what is going on?

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  59. when they find the dead scarlet ibis why does it put Doodle in such a bad mood after he buries it?

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  60. i think they want to kill doodle because walk

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  61. Two things:
    1. Karrie, we don't know Doodle's brother's name. I think that might be important.
    2. Connor, I think the fact that Doodle thinks his brother should marry his dad is just a sign of his naivete and innocence.

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  62. Why did Doodle tell his mom, dad, and aunt Nicey that his brother taught him how to walk

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  63. why does Doodle do everything backwards?

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  64. What is an Ibis? Where do they live? What do they look like?

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  65. Karl, it's a type of grass; I think they're just enjoying the summertime.

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  66. Do you think that Doodle's brother will help him or will trying to help him walk be pointless?

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  67. i doodle lives he will have troubles li8fe

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  68. Is the narrator telling this like it was a flashback? Does that mean something then happens to Doodle?

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  69. Kyle, maybe he's proud of that accomplishment? He could be trying to prove that he is more capable than they think?

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  70. why would the boys not want to tell their parents that doodle was learning to walk?

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  71. Megan, it does seem that Doodle's brother is a grown man who is telling this story about his childhood. See the first page. Your predictions could prove true.

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  72. The bird must of flown a long way to die in their yard

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  73. is the brother wanting to help doodle out of the love in his heart or the selfishness that he has for him to want to play

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  74. Because I think the parents would be very concerned with what they are trying to do.

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  75. the mood of this story seems really really sad

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  76. What stupidness does doodle have

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  77. Why was that text edited out of the story on the bottom of pg. 47 first column?

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  78. What is Dix Hill and why would Doodle and his brother be sent there if people stoped to listen to them

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  79. I think that the bigger brother expects too highly of Doodle. Doodle is a crippled little boy, and if he doesn't care about what people at school think of him then why should his bigger brother care? Especially because Doodle looks up to his bigger brother, I think he should set a good example for Doodle.

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  80. I think doodle is the peoples loved scarlet ibis

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  81. the mood of the story is very depressing

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  82. when doodle is all bloody and dying in the end he is red like the scarlet ibis

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  83. Yes; the bird is rare and has come from far away; what similarities do you see between the bird and Doodle?

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  84. Well i think the brother just wants to try to get the best for Doodle.

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  85. I wondered the same thing about Dix Hill; it seems that it's probably a sanatorium or a mental hospital.

    Cody and Devin, good connections.

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  86. are they still going to kill doodle even though hes learning to walk?

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  87. TKELLN great question!!!!!!!!!;) I believe the boys dont want to tell the parents because they may think they are pressuring him into something that is vertually impossible for him

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  88. Do we know what Doodle's disability is yet?

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  89. I think that doodle is going to get hurt by learning all the things over summer

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  90. The bigger brother must feel awful...

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  91. I really really want to know what happens to Doodle in the end of the story its very thought provoking

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  92. Why is doodle so sad about the Ibis?

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  93. I think doodle will learn to walk and then fall and get hurt

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  94. I couldnt sleep last night all i was thinking about was
    Doodle and his heroic fight with death very inspiring

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  95. What will happen if doodle is able to walk?

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  96. The mood of the story seems to be getting sadder

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  97. I think Doodle's brother is pushing him to hard, he can only do so much. Is something bad going to happen to Doodle?

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  98. I know that summer is gone
    I want to know more why doodle has skin like a old person
    I don't understand at all what type of disease doodle has

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  99. Do you think doodle will be able to walk? I think he will be able to

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  100. What ideas do you all have about the symbolism of the ibis?
    Also, Elena, a question from a long time ago--the edited text made the story especially long and even more disturbing, so these compilers decided to edited it out.

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  101. I wonder why they are not telling their parents they are teaching Doodle to walk??

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  102. Matt, I think Doodle may have cerebal palsy which would make him look older than he is and would have killed most children early on.

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  103. What kind of name is doodle anyways something like greg would be more appropriate

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  104. Can you tell us the edited text????

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  105. I think Doodle might be able to walk for a little while then he will not be able to.

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  106. What will be the reaction of Doodle's parents when finding out he can walk, swim, run, climb trees, and even fight?

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  107. i think the Ibis represents Doodle, how they both has problems and were different then the other birds/kids.

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  108. Karrie, good ideas about mood.
    Scott, how thought provoking. SO glad you spend time thinking about English.
    Nich and Cameron--like the predictions you all are making.
    About Doodle's sadness over the Ibis--remember that the ibis is rare. They may have never seen one before.

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  109. You should never leave someone behind if they have fallen

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  110. The brother most likely hates himself now....
    I never want to find a dead scarley ibis EVER.

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  111. I don't think that Doodle should be doing all these things at once, walking is even to much for him.

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  112. Bianca, it's a type of plant in the South.
    Megan, like that thinking. Keep going.
    Greg might have been more appropriate, but it's not very southern or nicknameish.

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  113. Why did Doodle have a feverish look and nightmares all of a sudden? What are the nightmares about?

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  114. Maggie, good inference. And, Cameron, I think Maggie's ideas would help you answer your question. They don't want to tell their parents because all the exertion could hurt Doodle, since he has a weak heart.

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  115. Do you think now that doodle can walk he will ba able to learn to run and then keep gaining more skills?

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  116. maybe Doodle will die like the bird

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  117. what happened to doodle to make him so messed up?

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  118. This is just like the Killing of a Mocking bird because someone in the story ends up being like the bird in some way

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  119. Zrunberg thats a great question but disabled people can only learn so much Doodle should take it one at a time. Hope this helped!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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  120. I think the birds death could be a spot of symbolysm somewhere in the book.

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  121. why was the painted picture of the brothers as old men and doodle in a go cart, help motivate doodle so much?

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  122. near the bottom of page 49, it mentions something about a rain fog, what on earth is this?

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  123. i think the brother killed doodle in a way by leaving him to die.

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  124. Brendan and Chandler, good connections. Earl, see my post earlier--I think Doodle probably had cerebal palsy.
    Connor, good inference.

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  125. Karl, fog that hangs on after a rain--more like mist.

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  126. I think it's wrong that Doodle's brother was ashamed that Doodle was crippled and couldn't walk. Doodle's brother was the one that made him walk.

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  127. We don't ever learn the brother's name, Sharon. Do you think that's important? Nich, great prediction.

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  128. I think Doodle will die from being overworked

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  129. Is the Brother pushing Doodle to hard? Is he making him worse than better?

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  130. does the bird relate to the main character

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  131. i think that having doodle do all this until he collapses and cries isnt good for him and will end up bad in the end instead of making him a fun brother who he can play sports with

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  132. why was the brother so sad in the end? I thought he wanted Doodle to die...in the beginning?
    Did he end up wanting him to stay alive sense he kept making progress?

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  133. how old are the boys in this story?

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  134. i cant imagine how the brother must feel...

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  135. I think doodle is weak like the ibis he is "lost " like the ibis far from where he should be and survived till a given point. The ibis and doodle were red and their legs were weak. I think doodle was sad because he could feel and relate Exactly towards the Scarlet Ibis..

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  136. Great connections, everyone. Angie, that's great. Put all those good ideas on the chart on pp. 51 too. We'll talk about them tomorrow. Who can answer Aaron;s and Megan's questions?
    Earl, I'm not sure about probably early elementary school.

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  137. On page 51, it mentions a gum tree, does this kind of tree produce chickle- the base of chewing gum?

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  138. The older brother must feel so much guilt because of everything that happened with Doodle.

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  139. I thought that Doodle was going to die. It's because the brother worked him way to hard for his body to control.

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  140. He relized Doodle ment a lot more to him than he thought

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  141. Why would the Brother leave doodle laying in the middle of the road while rain is pouring down, and then go back when he sees that Doodle hasn't gotten up yet? Why go back?

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  142. Poor Doodle. Why would the brother leave Doodle behind?

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  143. i have made a connection to the movie simon birch, i think that these two are the same in many ways.

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  144. I have made a connection the family doesnt want to let doodle die much lie in that dog movie with Owen Wilson And Jennifer Aniston you know the one where the dog is crazy but they learn to love it. At the end of the day people can let stuff go but if you truly love something you have to let it go thats a spongebob reference the one where he gets the sea horse

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  145. scott, i do beleive the movie you are referring to is marley and me, but i do think that there are some nickelodean referances in this story

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